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dan savage wrote an article in the nytimes about how scary he considers arkansas's anti-adoption/fostering law to be.

please answer before reading the article:

[Poll #1295817]

Date: 2008-11-12 07:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kaygigi.livejournal.com
While I am seriously disturbed by the "it was the Blackz!" argument as to why Prop 8 passed in California, Ark Prop 1 is probably the stupidest law ever written and it is just about as racist as it is homophobic. I say this because marriage rates are lower among blacks than whites, particularly in the south, particularly among rural blacks, particularly among poor blacks. Rural black poverty is not as bad in Arkansas as it is in say, Mississippi, Alabama, or Louisiana, but man, it's bad. Urban black poverty is also fairly high. So now you have the black children, disproportionately taken into foster care, who cannot be placed with family members because those family members are co-habitating or are single parents. You have single parents or cohabitating biological parents who cannot get back their children under supervised custody.
Of course PoCs in Arkansas didn't vote for this. They knew it was targeted towards them as much as teh gayz.
But of course for Dan Savage it's a gay issue, not a race issue, exclusively.

le sigh.

Personally I think that the Mormons should be investigated for breach of 5013c status for putting so much money into the Prop 8 coffers. Blacks may have voted for prop 8, but at a lower rate than whitey mcwhitewhite. Just because this more often lead to a split ticket btwn Obama and Prop 8 doesn't mean it's the blacks' fault! Grr...

(not addressing the issue raised in your last post, with which I agree as an ideal, but part of me really just wants a wedding registry...) (plus have you heard the shenanigans in the NYS Senate?)

Date: 2008-11-12 07:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kaygigi.livejournal.com
Oh, and I should also mention that I hate the way Savage classifies all of the abusive and neglectful parents as "heterosexual." Sorry, Dan. Even teh gayz have teh behbehs, and some of them are abusive or neglectful. In fact, Zach has dealt with kids whose moms are lesbians/bisexual women who have had CPS called on them by parents and/or ex-lovers (usually male, though sometimes female) and have used their sexual orientation as evidence of neglect or abuse. Were they model parents? Usually not, but did they deserve their families to be put into state monitoring? No. GAH.

Date: 2008-11-13 05:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rkt.livejournal.com
did you go to the protest at the temple?
ark prop 1 makes me see red. dan savage very frequently makes me see red. it is not a good combination.

i have missed out on the shenanigans of which you seem to speak.

Date: 2008-11-14 03:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kaygigi.livejournal.com
I did not. I was coaching Purchase rugby at the time.

The shananigans are basically that a couple of socially conservative Democrats have threatened to leave the party and become Republicans if the Senate Majority leader introduces pro-gay marriage legislation. Ergo, gay marriage legislation is off the table for the year. Meanwhile, all three senators threatening to do this only came out against gay marriage AFTER the election, during which the official party platform of NYS Dems was to pass gay marriage legislation (hence not making clear to their constituants that they actually didn't agree with the party platform), AND taking money from pro-gay groups.
Shenanigans, I say, shenanigans!

Date: 2008-11-16 02:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rkt.livejournal.com
clearly, this is so they can say they were for gay marriage before they were against it....

Date: 2008-11-12 07:10 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] belladonnalin.livejournal.com
God, I loathe Dan Savage.

That is all.

Date: 2008-11-13 04:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rkt.livejournal.com
yes.
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Date: 2008-11-13 04:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rkt.livejournal.com
hrm. i'll look it up at work tomorrow. maybe. i lack affection for savage.
in my (very limited) experience, colbert does fall short sometimes in managing his satire.

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