dear live journal

[rkt]

dear six apart, live journal, lj abuse (oh what a term), etc.

you all suck.

thank you for once again reinforcing shit-headed hate.

whie your capacity for stupidity shouldn't cease to amaze me, it still does.

i bite my thumb at all of you.

r

Comments

[liveavatar.livejournal.com]

Wuh? I'm afraid to ask.

[rkt.livejournal.com]

livejournal & co. has officially sanctioned anti-POC racism* in their communities.



*yes,redundant, but only because being a POC who is actively anti-white-stupidity means you're racist and also you're behaviour is punishable.

[peaceofpie.livejournal.com]

Ay caramba. What happened?

[rkt.livejournal.com]

in at least 3 communities, active racism reared its ugly head and was embraced.

more or less.

[kaygigi.livejournal.com]

seriously, you need to splain this post. I mean, I'm all for farting in the general direction of offensive people, but I want to have reason to do so.

[rkt.livejournal.com]

the purpose of lj-abuse isn't to stop abusive situations, but to promote the status quo.

[kaygigi.livejournal.com]

Can I ask where?

[(Anonymous)]

all original dramas have been buleeted.

booju_mooju primarily.

but also poor_skills and childfree.

[kaygigi.livejournal.com]

booju_mooju looks like a buncha assholes, and R, if you're reading it, it appears to be even more masochistic than feminist. Poor_skills didn't appear to have any drama, and actually, now that I've found it, I might join it or read it periodically, seeing as I'm brokedy broke broke. Of course, my answer seems to be "move back in with your parents", but I also know how to cook decently with cheap foods and such. I didn't bother with childfree.

Sucks that LJ abuse hasn't done anything about anything. I know it's difficult to balance open forums and free speech ideals and giving equal space to diverging viewpoints while at the same time protecting other users from outright defamation and attack. But some of the people on booju_mooju in particular seem to be out to defame and attack...

[rkt.livejournal.com]

that was me. and as said, all drama already magically disappeareded.

booj is pure masochism. i've never had hope there, but i used to have some modicum of such in feminist. it makes sense in my head that that, at times, makes feminist worse.

poor_skills has a habit of bringing out the racism and classism in people, sometimes more often than others. i missed the drama, but word has it someone made an FYI post of a scholarship for single moms of color and, well, yeah. that's just not fair, you see.

childfree is childfree. i have no idea. sometimes, i really think most people who take the label "childfree" don't want kids because that would mean growing the fuck up themseles. but booj sorta' discounts that since you see the shit people with kids pull.
but i will tell you cf is better than cf_hardcore, which, if it weren't so sad, would be funny.

as far as free speech? a_ lj is a private entity. which means the conept of free speech is a non-entity within its parameters.
b_ i strongly stand by the arguments not only that speech rooted in racism is strongly parallelable to screaming "fire" in a crowded theater, but also that it makes no sense to be able to make libellous statements about groups of people, but not of individuals.

lj abuse Has done shit. they've selectively enforced their rules. which is their usual way of doing things.

[kaygigi.livejournal.com]

I know that LJ doesn't have free speech the way one would have in a truely public forum with protected speech a la the constitution, but they have this ideology of allowing people to have free speech on the site, mostly as a way to not take resonsibility for what's posted.

I mean, I agree with you about racist speech, but I also think that LJ thinks that everyone has a right to an opinion, whether it's racist or not, or racist according to certain perspectives. Which is not to say that I agree with that stance, but I can see their arguements for not stepping in every case of "racist" speech. An honest debate about racial privileges and affirmative action might be a fine line, according to them, away from a racist rant from either side. Therefore they don't step in such that the first is allowed to go on unhindered and uncensored. Am I making sense? I mean, I've met a lot of people who are pro-racism and/or anti-anti-racism (yes, two different things), and I just have a hunch that LJ thinks that they can't censor those views so long as they aren't pointed towards a specific person. I disagree, but I also understand the ideology of allowing free exchange, though I don't agree with the LJ (and craigslist, and myspace, and etc etc etc) libertarian "live and let offend" policies. Ultimately I believe that peopel walking down the street swinging their fists should be held accountable for the noses they break, to the point where someone wantonly swinging their arms should have restricted movement for the good of society. Sorry for the metaphor, but in seventh grade my social studies teacher used the metaphor "i have the right to swing my fist until I hit your nose" to explain limits on protected speech when studying the first amendment.

Anyway, I hope that makes my stance a little clearer...

[rkt.livejournal.com]

but I also think that LJ thinks that everyone has a right to an opinion, whether it's racist or not, or racist according to certain perspectives.

but, as i've mentioned above. they are inconsistent about this. i'd bite my thumb at them less (but still, my thumb would be bit) if they were universal in their banninations and didn't focus so much on "punishing" PoC for fighting back against direct racism.

my main prior experience with lja was trying to argue against a pro-rape-community. my arguing with them, apparently, was more of a nuissance than getting rid of the damn comm.

the analogy works well enough.

[kaygigi.livejournal.com]

Theres a pro-rape community on LJ? They could be held criminally liable for any rapes that are committed by men in that community... I feel dirty now.

[rkt.livejournal.com]

the community eventually became no more. but not until significantly after lja received barrages of emails from survivors. at that time, the matter was irrelevent and they perceived no liability. (considering there was encouragement to rape and use drugging substnaces, i don't know how that makes since and i never received a plausible explanation beyond 'because we say so'.) i have no idea what led to the community becoming no more.


it's not my fault you're a dirty girl. :)

[kaygigi.livejournal.com]

Maybe someone did try to hold them liable, or maybe someone on their staff got raped. I'm glad it's gone, but seriously, it does lead me to wonder WTF? about LJ.

I'm not going to respond to the last comment... ;)

[liveavatar.livejournal.com]

If that. I wish I could slap lj-abuse upside the head, singly and as a group. Or maybe just the people who write its "rules."

[rkt.livejournal.com]

you'd be better off doing it to those who enforce them as that aspect of the game is more than a little inconsistent.

[bluebuckeye.livejournal.com]

You and me both. :-\